“In January, I began an experiment in podcasting, following an invitation from Owen Kelly and Sophie Hope, who host an excellent and varied podcast under the banner Meanwhile In An Abandoned Warehouse (no, I don’t know either, but it’s a nicely evocative name). They’d interviewed Arlene Goldbard, an American artist-activist and good friend of mine in a couple of early episodes, and me when A Restless Art was published in 2019. Owen and Sophie suggested that Arlene and I should join their expanding platform and do a monthly podcast together, drawing on our experience of cultural democracy and community art.”
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